Monday, August 6, 2012

Fantasy week 4


How does Tolkien define fantasy?

Tolkien uses a variety of explanations to describe his definition of fantasy. Imagination is at the forefront of what fantasy is created from. Tolkien states “the power of giving to ideal creations the inner consistency of reality” (p44) His fantasy ideally comes from nature and he uses elements of nature within his themes. An example of this is in The Lord of the Rings with the battle of Isengard when the trees of Fangorn rise up against Isengard. Isengard used to be a forested area but had been turned into the representation of what we know as an industrial area. Within this there were blacksmiths, forgers and the like who were preparing and breeding Orcs for war. In the fantasy, the race of trees, the Ents fought back against the Orcs as a representation of nature’s beauty overpowering the advantages of technology.

Tolkien speaks of the mind of fantasy being able to change what was once thought, into something magical. The example he uses is making things that are heavy, light or able to fly. Making yellow gold from grey lead and something that is still like a rock into something moving like the water. These images in the mind come from a place of imagination that flows into a space of fantasy. These notions of Tolkiens could perhaps identify him with the Romantics who were at the time that science and technology were advancing and rising and talked of the alternative view of nature, having everything that is needed and provided a more romantic ideology.

Tolkien did not believe that everything in fantasy had to be wholesome or even beautiful. He saw fantasy as a “natural human activity” one that does not have to defy reason or obscure scientific fact. Because Tolkien studied and understood languages and mythology he was able to make his fantasy so real to those who read it that at times the line between fantasy and reality was hard to see. He believed that by creating a secondary world the writer needs to have it flowing from reality.

Tolkien talked of the difference between folklore and mythology. He sees the beginning of fantasy coming from nature-myths as a way of people explaining what was going on as at that time they didn’t have the science and technology to explain it as we do today. These nature-myths became localised and humanized with heroes and in turn became folk tales, myths and legends. An example of this is how the ancient Greeks told of Apollo drawing the sun across the sky in a chariot and more localised of Maui fishing the Islands of Aotearoa from the sea.

7 comments:

  1. I find the comment you made about Tolkien aiming to make fantasy as close to reality as possible very interesting. When I was 7 or 8 reading Lord of the Rings, a lot of it went over my head, but what I did manage to read seemed very realistic and entirely possible. In my head it seemed like this could have all happened in a time before our own. It is fascinating to see that that was exactly what Tolkien was trying to achieve, "have it flowing from reality".

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    1. I think it adds a whole sort of relatability for the reader as well. If there isn't anything in the text that the reader can identify with, all of it would just go over our heads and it would be unreadable.

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  2. Yea, Tolkien wanted to make "Lord of the Rings" as if it really was a piece English history. That's why he went out of his way to create Middle Earth by illustrating maps and giving history behind each of the places and characters in the books he wrote. As he studied English and Literature in Oxford University, he used his expertise to invent new languages too for the different races.

    All this made it easier for the reader to actually immerse themselves into his stories and feel like the events that happen actually occurred in the past.

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    1. I think that the Earthsea saga did this very well too. How people behaved, the ships, the villages, etc were all quite real. Even the magic he did often seemed like it wasn't even magic sometimes, for me. The most magical thing I read I think, was his school arch enemy making a tree grow. All the magic seemed to touch on real things like air, or light etc, which made it less magical to me, and more possible to me, if that made sense lol.

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  3. Hi Kurt, you've shown good understanding of Tolkien's definition of fantasy.
    Could you give a few examples (say 3) from Earthsea (the text)? For example, what natural themes are in Earthsea that would prove Tolkien's theory correct?
    Also, please provide correct APA referencing at the bottom of the post.
    If you could reply this week, that would be great. Thanks

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  4. I suspect that Tolkien saw his worlds as actually existing is some way. He describes the role of the author as a 'secondary creator' (second to God, I presume) and his fantasy worlds as secondary creations. Once, when a contradiction was noticed in in manuscript of Lord of the Rings, Tolkien did not say, 'Oh, I'll rewrite that,' he said, 'Oh, I'll find out the answer.'
    And yes references please.

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    1. I think that quote about Tolkien finding out the answer is so interesting. I heard somewhere too that he sent Gandalf off earlier in the story because there was a danger of him becoming the main character. And when he did it, he had no idea why Gandalf had to leave. It was only later in the story that he "found out" that Gandalf had gone to see his mentor.

      I love the idea of "discovering and learning things" rather then making them up when you write. It seems like a great adventure

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