Monday, July 23, 2012

Week 2 - Che Crawford - Tintin

Do you think comics are a children's or adult genre/media?

Both. Much like 2D animation, I think comics can be dismissed and shoved aside as something that is childish, or for geeks. I think this is largely for two reasons. Comics can often consist of a sort of ‘silly’ humor that children enjoy and adults can sometimes find pointless. And also having ‘pictures’ with a story can be automatically sorted into the same category in our minds as children’s picture books. That is, something for beginner readers.

In 1837, "The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck" was published by Rudolphe Töpffer and it is considered the earliest known comic book. In 1842, "The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck" became the first comic book published in the United States.

In the comic, Mr. Vieux Bois encounters a seemingly overweight young woman and instantly falls in love. His initial attempts at courting are ignored, followed by short periods of his desperation. He attempts suicide by falling on his own sword and then by hanging himself. Both attempts fail.

The comic story is told humorously and Töpffer described comic books as a medium appealing particularly to children and the lower classes but the story achieved widespread popularity in the United States and its original Switzerland amongst readers of all ages.

I’m wondering if people’s first run-ins with comics are usually the short humorous strips found in newspapers such as Garfield. I’m wondering if before people even get a chance to explore this medium of storytelling, they’ve already decided that comics can’t be something more serious and ‘adult.’ At least the Western world. But if people take the time to explore the genre, past Garfield, they will find some serious, or interesting stories on going stories that could be viewed as a more adult story. That's not to say that Garfield isn't an adult story. I just mean that comics can be more then strips now. They can be entire graphic novels.

If we look specifically at manga, that is Japanese Comics, we can see many examples of these types of stories. While some people in the Western world view comics as for children, manga stories have always catered for all ages. Their stories range from ongoing episodic stories about Ninja’s like Naruto, which is beloved by children, teengers and some adults, to love stories, to ‘adult’ stories, to fantasy etc.

Another version of comics largely enjoyed by adults are webcomics. Webcomics are updated daily, or weekly etc portraying whatever the artist wants to talk about. Sometimes having ongoing characters, or themes. The most popular ones earning enough views to allow their authors to take on web-comic writing as a full time job.

But of course comics are largely enjoyed by children too. I think we might find more and more these days that stories, comics, movies etc can be enjoyed by a large variety of people and ages, each getting different things from the story that is relevant to them.

I certainly have enjoyed a large range of comics, starting with Asterix and Obelix to more recently a personal favourite, the webcomic called 'Looking for Group."

10 comments:

  1. Just wanna say that the Batman comics are often very adult and thought-provoking, dealing with drug addiction, morality, etc. Also, Penny Arcade is awesome.

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  2. Yeah sorry, that's true it is. I meant mostly that DC and Marvel comics can get shoved aside sometimes as for geeks/nerds/stupid labels etc. Although recently thanks to various movies it's becoming popular to a wider audience.

    And yeah Penny Arcade is for sure awesome

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    1. That's actually quite interesting. I was reading this article on cracked.com the other day about what nerd/geek means these days and how it has changed from when DC/Marvel comics truly were for the weird outcasts. (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-modern-kids-dont-understand-about-being-nerd/)

      Now it is almost a compliment to be called a nerd or geek in some circles. It is interesting how the audience of these superheroes has changed over the years from pasty nerds in their basements to being the top sellers in movie theaters all around the world.

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    2. The turn around is definitely really interesting. I used to try and get my friends to come over and watch a lot of animated films and shows or play video games with me haha. But up until recently a few of them weren't interested in even seeing if they liked them because it was geeky etc. But now they're the first to call me up and ask if I want to see batman or spiderman or have I played this game etc etc.

      I kinda like the more people are interested in those things. I always felt like my friends were missing out for stupid reasons

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  3. Yea, Japanese Manga is still appealing to people of all ages. I grew up watching Dragon Ball Z and a lot of my friends still love it. Other Manga I read are Inuyasha and a street racing one called Initial D. Initial D was very adult because there are controversial topics covered such as rape and even pedophilia. Certainly these are topics that would not be in a "kids" comic book.

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    1. That's interesting because I read inuyasha as a child but obviously missed all of those themes. I guess I need to go back and re-read/watch it.

      I guess that's the point that keeps coming up on all our groups posts etc. Depending how old you are/your experiences, you enjoy thigns for different reasons, meaning that almost anything can be for almost any age maybe?

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  5. Very high level of comment here guys. Excellent, as was Che's original post with her history of comics. I remember as a kid in the 1950s we had classic comics - great novels turned into comics. Like Treasure Island. Do these still exist, even as collectors items?
    Then more recently, the great 1960s 'head comics' artist R Crumb has done a the whole of the Bible graphic novel style! Is this a medium really about to fly in the 21st Century, because of its mix of word and image?

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  6. Very high level of comment here guys. Excellent, as was Che's original post with her history of comics. I remember as a kid in the 1950s we had classic comics - great novels turned into comics. Like Treasure Island. Do these still exist, even as collectors items?
    Then more recently, the great 1960s 'head comics' artist R Crumb has done a the whole of the Bible graphic novel style! Is this a medium really about to fly in the 21st Century, because of its mix of word and image?

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    1. I have no idea if comics like treasure island still exist but I hope so, because they sound awesome to read.

      I love graphic novels so I hope that the industry continues to grow.

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